when the hard copains meatpacking district here on our way to visit the Danish DJ producer and drummer Thomas baffle along with his banner who made whom and as a solo producer and artist is that a string of releases across a host of labels including secretly Canadian friends friends get physical and complex I guess the first piece that that was very important was the Atari and sequencer yeah when recorded it was really old already so it was like horrible like for production but it it worked and we made our first record it's like a little screen and and I keep out almost and then you put a flog disk and it's only black and white and really pixelated the the screen like it's cream like this and then a same love with the sampler had like 16 seconds of mono samples in total so it's like very limited what you could do you know even an old iPhone can do more than that now so any I have a you know some old delays and compressors and stuff eq's I never use it I know I think what I focus on actually adding as much outboard synthesizers as possible the money Polly has have mentioned is I think they've go to suit or a piece of equipment at the moment but it changes over time but it's mainly it changes between synthesizers there's no other equipment that's important obviously monitors are very important and I also like this sound in the India is very important but that's mostly for mixing for the creative process it's the synthesizers yeah and what is it by mixing it's also really hard I think because you can you can sit in the studio and brave about like this is I'm amazing you know this sounded why how did I get this and then you go home and play it to your wife or whatever and it just sounds like shit on the speaker you know the little speaker at home yeah it's it's very different I think it's nicer now where you can have an idea and sit it out in one second you can just drag it in the computer and listen how does this drum sound sound no it's not good enough we still use come you know synthesizers and and you know real instruments but a lot of a lot of stuff is done in the computer and I think it's really good for the creative process that it's much faster now on it when I listen to all records I picture the the guy playing the tambourine for a full song and I just feel really sorry for guys it's so hard playing the tambourine like even though it's easier making it a drum beat on that drum machine you could say it also takes much more and effort to make a good drum beat on a drum machine and your album assault and see as I understand I mean which was one of your most popular and successful records I mean a lot of that was made on the move right and just with a laptop yeah it was the thing is it I got this email from a guy in LA and it was like hey guy you want to release something on my label and I thought that was maybe cool and he was like maybe we should do something and then I was sitting in a hotel room somewhere I started some track that sounds good I said to him yeah let's work further than that and I went to LA and lived for a while and and finished acting the album over there and I only had only had like a like a really really cheap table that I bought for like 40 bucks but those vocals have recorded directly into the computer at Nina the singer's home because she was really busy and she was getting married and she didn't have time to finish them s is just like song them in the computer and sent them and I was like yeah they sound a little rough but I'll just make them work they had this special vibe to them because they made like they were so the whole I think the whole theme with the album was kind of DIY made at home made on the wrong kind of and it really made sense actually because it has a lot of playfulness that I'm still when I listen to that one that album I'm really happy about it I should just stick to my laptop because it's so fast and you can try out a lot of stuff and I try to make all the music like instantly on the laptop and then afterwards if you feel like it we had like the human who we had prompts and we had extra synthesizers analog synthesizers but the best process is starting up only on the left not add something just because you can it's kind of boring it's not rock and roll is like nine-to-five kind of putting the kid off and and going to studio and picking up the kids again that's basically how we do all of us I know sometimes you can't just go to student and make music and make good music and I know that by now so I never take a break actually I always like I started at nine o'clock of eight o'clock but just keep on working and at some point maybe not Monday but maybe Wednesday there's something good coming out of of the studio and that's that's how I we think a lot of other people start with the guitar just a melody in vocals but I am really from Paige because I'm a drama yeah and sometimes I just think of a concept when I'm flying or whatever often I start with finding a lot of nice synthesizer sounds finding a lot of like doing a good drum beat actually making the the whole document ready for producing without even having any thing in it so you pick all the sounds a bit like yes a painter picking a palette of colors yes definitely and then that will be your set of tools for that track yeah I like to be able to instantly make something good instead of doing a lot of stuff to make it good afterwards and we might change all the sounds but but when the document is is when I make the document you can like play keyboard and sounds amazing you can make a bassline it sounds good and the drums already mixed so do so if you just like do the right things you can always connected ly record it and and release it I've done I think a lot of all the good songs I made I made within one or two hours and after one or two hours they actually sound 90 or 95% as they are when they're released the way I work is that I if it feels right I don't do anything else or the ones I'm happy for like broken glass pulsing like that that's that's two of my favorites from my own catalogue to Prague glass we made we had a whole day of it did a lot of shit and then the last hour was like so let's do something else and we tried something and I was like this is good try to sing those lyrics and I play around with them and within an hour we had almost the finished version of blueglass but when when the call feels right it's often a very good song and they're not only to do that much more you can also like the monopolies and decides I've played a lot of round with it and still that's some stuff it does where I don't really get what it does that one you know playing around finding the right sound and like just nerding sounds is when I fly for instance sometimes it just sit creating presets some presets like play around with synthesizers adding the right effects on them so they're ready to when I make a song later put into a Word document and start with you just the right the right sound you know the right sound can like make a hit I always have to mention Daft Punk they've been I think you know after I heard that's this small bigger stone did my that's closed out for loud one of the guys played Daft Punk to me and I was like what this this it's it sounds like Herbie Hancock I thought why should I buy this it's like old funk and then two months after I was like this is crazy good and I had to buy it and since then I've been a big fan it's so similar and it's kind of groundbreaking and it still works you know a scrape man has been really inspiring and interesting here and there to be here in your den at the heart of the control is there any advice you would give someone starting up or if you found yourself in this situation or if you were telling your son look yeah I think I think and I think that's very pretty actually I really I'm not the guy that's kind of missing the old days or whatever that in many ways they kind of suck you know sending your demos me a CD and Mail and you know that sucked yeah but and I really like that and also see that you know they'll seen that you can be from Guatemala or Poland outskirts of Russia and you can be a very successful producer it only takes a laptop and you can you know get a cheap laptop and the cheapest program and you could actually make a number one hit that's that's how it is now and and my advice would be like getting getting like some good speakers obviously so you can mix and maybe a sound card and they're like computer and it's it's so you know it's a very deadly investment to follow your dream [Music]