I think is a job for any artists sonically if you have vision within sound is is going back to really old-school ways of messing with it Troy it out toward the picture draw the diagram and what the shapes going to be because all of this stuff can help us now more than it ever did I always said that my sound is a it's the analog sound in a digital bubble it has all of these layers but they're in this bubble and they're all floating to the surface and exploding at the top and you're hearing this this mind candy that we need to hear sometimes I haven't have a treehouse at the bottom of the base of the house is where the magic happens you know it's got you know railway sleepers for a floor and a boat and I look at the root of a tree and I line the boat and I just close the door and it's got perfect sound in their society it's got beautiful sound you know and it's got beautiful reverb and I'll play something in that room just one loop or melody for my speakers from the studio that creeps into the hallway this sound because I'm listening to the ghost of the sound and even if I see it in the same room with that sound I'll sometimes gone right in the other room because I'm hearing the sound traveling it finds me these other notes that are there which is weird but it's great for my browsing writing process I think it comes from a natural place and the end the art and the people involved can actually bring something to your project there's not just built on the harp at how many records they sell you know I think that you know I like collaboration she goes no man is an island I like the idea of work with other people I think Barry taught me the most just by doing one track with a fella but the fact that he turned up on my nightclub week-in week-out for a period that he did there's like four weeks where he came every week and he just sat on the steps of this place and said could a great place hear me a lot of great ideas happening here and and the fact that don't do what's the obvious he wanted to make a drum base record I didn't want to do that I wanted a Milo my Eno and I made truth was a ballot it is still a ballot today but it's a ballad that the old Juke you know allowed me to do and and I was remember him saying on the documentary Sutton's return and he said you know Thomas brilliant album I mean I'll say this there in front of him even if he makes a Polish type for the rest of his life it's fine he's that timeless and I'm like Quincy know him I could still got a chance son I don't remember that because I remember that everything else I made after that was kind of shit because it's about a nice trying to find himself always and it's only now I really truly realized what he really meant I have to reinvent everything and this album is about reinvention there were some sparks and the embers thought that were you know sometimes sad day was insane a temp or there were some pieces a monkey boy was a malice which is good track they weren't great albums they were you know trying to find myself for different things I look at people on the label that aspire to be like me I wanted to create into this whole other area of stuff and metalheads as an entity not as a guy who has a personality but as an entity a skull with a pair of headphones music will last longer than all of us and were dead and gone and the greats are going and they're falling away from us but no man is an island - the people have allowed me to grow there are engineers now that'll go beyond engineers have loud Mesa gromek James Davison he's a genius he's a guide has way beyond any engineer I've ever worked with this is a guy that I've gone back to engineers hasn't gone but I bet anyone says what Playford it could do certain things let's try these guys we're gonna do he's drawing it was the theory oh well back of this video this is all gonna do this is the idea yeah yeah but we can't do that okay so I'll get back in the river like a salmon and I'll keep swimming upstream as soon as I started suit you know the idea of James coming to Thailand to come and do this album I said we're gonna do some different things that you're not gonna be used to so yeah fine okay and I said on his thought in prison I'm gonna sauna put him right at the d-pad and of what conceptual baned lady prism okay cool are you ready yeah yeah so we're gonna go to do some time seeking this yourself right he's gonna yeah yeah cool it's there and he's just ready and I found someone that got help us all really cuz is just prolific [Music] when the music comes from the place where it's so beautiful I don't even know where it comes from I'm just channeling and you then share that love it comes back another way I was like James does a beautiful version of truth which is the berry trucker I said to David there I try and speak to as often as I can about greatness or about me being not great and even being the absolute God making you know recomposing it still following the original structure but creating something beautiful that comes out of these two speakers they're absolutely just that you realize very early on that it's not coming out of speakers it's in the room with you is a deity and it will just go inside and just grab your heart and pull it out because I'm really fed up of music going through the head because of the man [Music] well I felt I felt that the way I delivered him the way I sang it to him how it should be he knew the original I robbed the I gave him the original I gave him the new version in the way the Volkers I ripped them all out they would they run the same where they delivered differently so that's David homage that's George a gem and I think one of the main points for me in challenging the sound in my head and what I hear from the notes being played on the notes is the sound around the notes it's the air that the speaker leaves behind which is the ghost in the machine is the ghost nose [Music]