this big boys gone again Brennan for the red box to do Long's day to be Goldy one of the true innovators and studio masses of UK music with its distinctive grills chains and rings he's an iconic figure not just in the music world [Music] he's set to release a new album the journey man his first as Goldie since 1999 and we're going to talk about sounds the art of collaboration listening closely in the studio and get an insight into those golden years that are so central to his work with music and sound just because we say electronic music we should make it the dirty word like we say graffiti because graffiti is now adoring the walls of the molder galleries around the world and graffiti did for art what cover bass music did for electronic music it was the dirty work drama basically - the dirty word but what comes from drum and bass piece which comes from the hieroglyphic were the bubble letters worthy we can understand it once we've got it presented in a very singular way I've always seen arrangement there's been a skill set arrangement which is come through inverted ly through the fitti being able to to layer and paint because you know the image is an idea with two dimensional objects on a wall which in fact has so many layers between that now that those layers from the light outline idea said it to the layers and the fill to the final execution of the outline which is then presented to us within a four dimensional object which is causing all of this crazy Asia almost in a way that Xu art wasn't anything else and that's how I've been on painting sound I've seen sadly some that I see very clearly but we can't forget one very important thing you have to apply the soul to the music man it's nothing without it and I hear all this music and sometimes I'm listening to people say music is math yes map it should make sense so please don't let me hear the math when you play me when I hear a record I don't want to hear the map and only hear the fucking wheels turning around only other record owning it is sound and I think it's very important that I hear you need to give me an illusion I want to hear the soft the software is here and it's all the backroom staff preparing the trick preparing the you know we're going to make sure that we pull the floor away so the personal fall through before we before we've all been giving you know to the distraction you know and and we lose ourselves in music for the magic of it we have to because he's the perfect whack on tearing isn't it I think it's like look I think there's something is software in the hardware now is I look at it like a child's point of view you know if I run into a sweet shop and as Deon is not there and I put my hand in every jar and I take as many what I would take and I can take all of these sweets provide them all too quickly it's like I could end up feeling very sick some point and I think it's about taking just enough so he doesn't know it's missing sometimes with a lot of aspects to this music because the one thing that everyone seem to have forgotten about with music is that look this is software and hardware what is music from the 70s and the 80s and all supposed to be lamenting all of a sudden for the $90 and what is it sounds are good because people applying the soul to it it's about what soul music sounded like coming out to speak for the first time the piano a voice a string okay it's three things but very very well recorded but not to the point of over polishing I kind of found out that stuff very early on because I've know having one foot in analog because of grown up on music my love for music and having one foot on the future like a terminators being programmed to work with all this software in samplers and learning very quickly to fill them up I mean always work out at William or which video in the back room I literally went in there with 1500 quid and said I'm gonna hire this video with a friend know so gonna hire this video unless you know we're going to get to twos good good well instead of using nine 50s where to give us one thousands is the future and they got two of them for me and I never forget the engineer Mike Rutherford turning around and going you fill them up but what are you gonna do with you fill them up we don't you don't fill these things up I've been looking at over the shoulder of another guy engineering all my life to the point where I'm like you know sitting in a room like captain Carrigan okay we're going to take it here I'm going to go there and now I'm you know when I sit in the chair to start a project I'm going to take you through all of these planets I'm gonna go everywhere and I'll brief the engineer this is what's going to happen and here's the diagram on the wall stuck there that's where you're going and that's what we're going to do this screen you're looking at it's not a screen it's just a window that goes left and right infinitely that way what we're going to do is where the time travel through this it's only 100 years of now to record audio man so I can hundred years we've been you found them so I can go back and forth in my time machine through software through these two fucking speakers I've been so so blessed I was I can still sit in a studio in Thailand in my studio and sit downstairs because I wake up very lost sleep much for hours is like why obviously five is a gift of life thank you for hours you I sleep and I got upstairs and I'll see in the studio and I'll put a piece in he's gone and it could be you know a month my Dynaudio they sit 120 centimeters and have a perfect angle and I sit and I sit and I see the perfect place I love I listen to I have a spectrum of about about it two foot but I can move around but it's a perfect place to be and I just sit and listen to directly or Gretzky area and the pronouncing Symphony of sorrowful songs or I can listen to you know to tamale or I can this is just filled pourcel The Stranglers or punk record or something and they just the way this sound comes to us and the way that we registering is still it has some it has to make my hair stand up I have to have transparency in the way this time comes to me even I listen to the album every track has to do that to me has to make me feel completely beyond myself because not me making the music [Music] [Music] you know I've got 12 people in my head that has to listen to it and they can be like Caesars floor sometimes they can stab me to pieces just go he's not right it's getting worse just get him my blade you wait there before you even pick up a knife hiraman if we decide to call me on this just listen to what I'm saying first piece to seem to agree with me you're outnumbered he's been me within my own head I have to deal with other characterizations with you know I have sort of certain attributes to the radar as soon as he was very light I'd have to deal with them as individual characters in my head when if it's the fan in my head that's what I hear so it's now software is finally getting to that point where wow I can get there a lot quicker now any artists coming up now that young golden you asking this young kid what would he say he say fuck all your complexity I'm gonna I'm gonna get right in between you and find the thing that you've not found yet because that's what I you have to do as an artist you have to find the sound it's not there smashing up throw it out break it if you like but do it make the sound be barbaric break it to pieces if you like sleep in the woods whatever you want to do cuz we need to do but my house is your house will be very different and full of very different objects in 20 30 years time musically I haven't changed much I'm listening to from athenaeus 85 years ago I'm still listening to him today like today is Nadine Alizee gems is a beautiful version of truth which is the berry tracker I said to David who I try and speak to as often as I can about greatness are about maybe not great and even being the absolute god [Music]